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Descendants of Christian IX of Denmark

Christian IX with various children and grandchildren at Fredensborg Palace. Specific subjects are identified here.
Christian IX with various children and grandchildren at Fredensborg Palace. Specific subjects are identified here.

The executed Nicholas II of Russia. The queen that never set foot in her country, Alexandra of Yugoslavia. Accomplished Olympian Constantine II of Greece. The last king of the Congo, Baudouin of Belgium. An heir forging his 21st-century path, William, Prince of Wales. What do all of these people have in common (besides being royals)? They can claim descent from the Father-in-law of Europe, Christian IX of Denmark!

If this DYK is approved, readers will be enticed to learn about how the royal families of Europe are biological relatives to a closer extent than some may think! Created by AndrewPeterT (talk). Self-nominated at 03:12, 18 March 2024 (UTC).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.



@AndrewPeterT: Hi, there! I will be reviewing this Did You Know nomination. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 23:55, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Review checklists

DYK eligibility scan results: (See here for details.)

  • Prose size (text only): 7669 characters (1201 words) "readable prose size"
  • Article created by AndrewPeterT on March 9, 2024
  • Article moved from Draft:Descendants of Christian IX of Denmark on March 14, 2024
  • Article has not been expanded 5x since it was created
  • Article has not been created or expanded 5x or promoted to Good Article within the past 10 days (27 days) DYKcheck does not account for previous versions with splits or copyright violations.


General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Yes Therealscorp1an (talk) 00:39, 11 April 2024 (UTC)


Review discussion

@AndrewPeterT: Well done for nominating this article, a topic that is of great interest to me. The hook I prefer is ALT0. As you'd know, there are a few criteria for DYK:

  • This article was moved into the mainspace on 14 March and nominated on 18 March. Therefore, it is new enough.
  • My immediate primary concern for this article was the overwhelming amount of tables in its use. However, good use of background information for each child ensures that there are around 6800-6900 characters of original prose. This makes the article long enough.
  • These hooks, of which I prefer ALT0, are adequately sources, so there do exist cited hooks.
  • As you have less than five DYK nominations, there is no quid pro quo required.
  • Finally, the article's prose is well cited. Information within some tables, however, is not. Though it is clear that effort has been made to source information in some tables, some tables lack sourcing entirely. I am not too concerned with lack of sources for their birth and death dates as that can be found on their respective articles, but it is moreso their children. For example, three of Princess Alexandra of Hanover and Cumberland's children lack sources.
  • The article has good spelling and grammar. There are a few fixes that could be made:
    • "would go on to have" ➜ "had"
    • "would go on to fight" ➜ "fought"
    • "would go on long sea voyages..." ➜ "went on long sea voyages..."
    • "Also, Alexandra and Edward's eldest..." ➜ "Additionally [or Furthermore, Moreover, etc.], Alexandra and Edward's eldest..."
    • After addressing him, he no longer needs to be repeatedly called "George I", he can just be called "George". Same goes for anyone else with ordinals. If it is a new paragraph, feel free to restate the ordinal. I would suggest however, you write "Christian IX" instead of "Christian" the whole time.
    • "Dagmar took the name Maria Feodorovna" ➜ "Dagmar took the name "Maria Feodorovna"". Italics not needed here. Quotation marks around her name is optional and up to you.
    • "Moreover, both Nicholas and Michael were killed during the Russian Revolution." ➜ "Moreover, both Nicholas and Michael, along with Nicholas's five children, were killed during the Russian Revolution." Yes, only talking about the children are being talked about, but it is best to include them as they were also closely-related relatives who also died as a result of the Revolution.
    • In the ALT0 hook, I would change it from "the parents to" ➜ "the parents of".

So, in summary, all that needs to be addressed is the sourcing within tables and a few spelling and grammar mistakes. I am also a bit concerned with the amount of WP:WHITESPACE. If this can't be fixed, it is not too much of a concern. Please let me know if you need any assistance or clarification. I hope this helps and I look forward to hopefully having this in DYK. Thanks. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 00:39, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

@Therealscorp1an: Thank you very much for your detailed evaluation and feedback. I have no objections to the ALT0 hook being used on the Main Page. Could you please let me know when I should make the suggested changes? As you noted, I am still in the process of citing some of the information in the tables. AndrewPeterT (talk) (contribs) 02:12, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
@AndrewPeterT: As soon as possible. The quicker these are addressed, the quicker we can place it on DYK. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 04:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
All suggested spelling and grammar corrections have been made. I am prioritizing citing sources for the great-grandchildren of Christian IX and Louise. AndrewPeterT (talk) (contribs) 04:51, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
@AndrewPeterT: Great job. There's one other thing I would change. In the caption of the photo that will be used for the hook, I would change "Christian IX with various children and grandchildren at Fredensborg Palace." to "1886 portrait of Christian IX and his family by Laurits Tuxen." It's best the artist is probably credited. Also, in the actual article, in order to aleviate some of the WP:WHITESPACE, I would remove the two protraits of Christian IX and Louise in the background section as there are paintings of them given in the table below so. Once you're done sourcing the table information, please let me know! - Therealscorp1an (talk) 00:08, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ a b "Queen Louise". Amalienborg Palace. Retrieved March 17, 2024.
  2. ^ "The History of Denmark 1875-1900". Amalienborg Palace. Retrieved March 17, 2024.
  3. ^ "Christian IX". Royal Palaces. National Museum of Denmark. Retrieved March 17, 2024.